Debra Opri on Prop 8
About Prop 8
- Was passed in Nov 2008, overturned because of group activists through entire state, Aug. 4
- Judge Vaughn Walker asked CA to recognize gay relationships for what they are and issued a “stay” of allowing marriages expected to be overturned
- Allows CA to fulfill constitutional obligation to provide marriages on equal basis
- Protection under Family Law statues (your expertise)
- Gay couples have the same capacity to love a child as a straight couple
- Best interest of any child is to have two parents period
- Straight married friend said, “Gay couples have a right to be just as miserable as the rest of us married folk!”
- John Heilman, Mayor of West Hollywood deputized six City Hall staffers so that they are ready to go today to marry up to 600 couples if/when Judge Vaughn Walker, gives the go-ahead that gay marriages may be officiated in California starting immediately.
- The WH Mayor has set aside Kings Road Park, 1000 Kings Rd., specifically for wedding ceremonies beginning this afternoon!
Debra Opri
Debra Opri is a regular analyst on CNN providing top notch legal opinion on the latest breaking news. This time around, it is Prop 8.
Judge to rule on stay Thursday in Prop. 8 case -
The federal judge who overturned California’s same-sex marriage ban is set to rule Thursday on whether gay marriages should resume immediately in the state or await an appeals court’s input.
Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker announced late Wednesday that he would issue his decision by noon on requests to impose a stay that would keep Proposition 8 in effect while its sponsors appeal his decision.
The announcement came after lawyers for gay couples, California Gov. Schwarzenegger and Attorney General Jerry Brown filed legal motions Friday asking that same-sex marriages be allowed to resume immediately.
Those motions were filed two days after Walker struck down California’s voter-approved gay marriage ban as unconstitutional. In his 136-page decision, Walker said gay marriages should begin immediately, but agreed to suspend weddings until he could consider the legal arguments.
California voters passed Proposition 8 as a state constitutional amendment in November 2008, five months after the California Supreme Court legalized same-sex unions and an estimated 18,000 same-sex couples already had tied the knot.
Opponents of same-sex marriage said they want Proposition 8 to stay in effect until their appeal of Walker’s ruling is decided by higher courts.
They have argued in court papers that resuming gay marriage now would cause legal chaos if the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals or U.S. Supreme Court eventually reverse Walker’s ruling.
Santa Cruz County Clerk Gail Pellerin, president of the California Association of Clerk and Elected Officials, said county agencies that issue marriage licenses will be ready to serve same-sex couples whenever they get the green light.
Before deciding the case, Judge Walker heard 13 days of testimony and arguments.
Defense lawyers argued that the ban was necessary to safeguard the traditional understanding of marriage and to encourage responsible childbearing.
The judge dismissed the notion that gay Americans were seeking a new right as opposed to one already guaranteed them under the Constitution.
He said that preventing gays from marrying does nothing to strengthen heterosexual unions or serve any purpose that justifies the ban’s discriminatory effect.
“Same-sex couples are identical to opposite-sex couples in the characteristics relevant to the ability to form successful marital unions,” the Walker wrote. “Like opposite-sex couples, same-sex couples have happy, satisfying relationships and form deep emotional bonds and strong commitments to their partners.”
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Just to let you know, I am a straight married man with a wife and kids. I posted this because I feel that the government should not be able to create laws on marriage between consenting adults. This belief is not limited to same sex marriage. – Brandon
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Twitter: stevescott1
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I am still unclear about all the California legal wranglings. It seems like thorny emotional issue to so many people on both sides of the fence.
Really I do not see why there should be an issue at all I am firmly in the “Gay couples have a right to be just as miserable as the rest of us” camp
If a religion or group does not want to marry them because of religious beliefs that is their decisions. That is part of the reason we separate church and state, but the country that I live in should not exclude anyone from a privilege granted by the government regardless of race, color, creed or sexual preference.
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Twitter: Brandon_Connell
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I agree with everything you said 100%. I know that if the law supporting legal gay marriage sticks, it opens the door for Polygamy also. Another thing I believe should be unregulated within consensual adult (18+) relationships.
Well said, both of you! In the UK we have gay marriages, although there are still people who are opposed to them. Same sex couples adopt children, provide fostering and temporary placements for children, contribute significantly to society and in every country every adult should be allowed to live in the same way, without restrictions for some but not others. Thanks for sharing – brilliant!
Enjoy the journey.
Mandy
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Twitter: Brandon_Connell
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The people who are opposed to them can simply not take part in them. It’s none of their business just like it is none of the government’s business. I think that when you become an adult, you have passed into the world of being able to do what you want without a wanna-be parent on your back telling you what you can and can’t do. It’s one thing if you intend to kill someone. It’s another thing if you want to make a sexual choice with your body. Just my opinion.
I beleive this is on the way to be legalized in all 50 states in the US, even though it might take another 20 years…
Gay marriage is legal in 5 states (or 6). That is a good start.
Twitter: Brandon_Connell
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I believe a few things will be legalized including gay marriage, polygamy, and recreational marijuana. It is just a matter of time.
Prop 8 IS WORKING WELL.
Twitter: Brandon_Connell
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I can’t say that I follow it at all because I am not in that lifestyle. I do know that regulating a single group is not working.
Twitter: ideasbubble
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If it does not harm anyone then i do not see the problem with it, especially if its the persons own free will?
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Twitter: Brandon_Connell
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Exactly. It is big government and very rude and ignorant for a group (the government) to tell adults how they can live.